Subject: illustration: Lists!
Lists are hard to keep. I've been thinking and there's the basic dilemma... that one wants to have an name of a particular art director to address one's samples to... but of course these art directors keep changing jobs. That's where all the scriveling comes in... that's where one sits at the library with a table full of reference books... LMP, Children's Writers, Artists Market... cross referencing... following leads... fingers marking the pages... brain several steps behind... trying to exactly pin down just what the address of Andrews & McMeel really is.
What's frustrating is that some addresses are not in the LMP... while others are not in the Artists Market... and so on. Then there's the question of accuracy... I find that lots of lists are not accurate at all. The online list from CBC is often incorrect.. and there's so many discrepencies between the LMP and Children's Writers lists.
The LMP is such a forbidding huge volume... I always get sort of sea sick trying to wade through it. Then eventually I return home with all my scribbled changes... and paste them into my Claris Works database. Gosh bless computers for this! No wonder people are so cagey about their lists.... since I started writing this, three art directors have changed places.
John
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I wish that SCBWI could have an online list, accessible to members only if necessary, where people could mail in updates and changes. But I know that lots of folks make their living by selling lists... or else by keeping information private.... in order to profit by it.
John
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The Company is Creative Access.
They are based out of Chicago, and their number is:
312-440-1140
They have a website, but it's still under construction. However, the address is:
www.creativeaccess.com
The following is a little bit of information on them, but for better, more specific info, call them. Ask for Charlie Hopkins, he'll be glad to send you more information.
Their database contains roughly 250,000 names of "Creatives" which include Art Directors, Creative Directors, Art Buyers, and Graphic Designers.
They cover Art Directors (among others) from:
Agencies
Corporations
Magazines
Graphic Design Firms, and
Publishing.
Their Publishing list includes names from over 900 firms (out of some 15,000 that they say are out there).
They update the information 2 times year (Creative Access has a "team of researchers" that I guess spend their 9-5 updating the list). There are alot of different ways you can break down both the kind of list you want to get, and how you want to get it.
Lists are one-time usage. Prices range from $50 to over $500 (If you wanted the entire database of every name they've got) Having then work out a custom list for you starts at $500. Talk to Charlie for more details on this. Members of the Graphic Artists Guild will get a discount.
Other options include how the list is sent to you. Some examples are:
As a call sheet
As Mailing labels (this is how we handled it when we sent our mailers out)
As a floppy (this would include 1 year access)
As a rolladex...
etc.
Anyway, that's about it for starters. If anyone is at all interested, go ahead and call them. They'll mail more info to you.
I would be interested in knowing if anyone has heard of other companies like this. In some ways, it sounds like it makes more sense to keep your own list updated, or hire an agent... isn't this something that an agent will keep up on for you?
Hope this is useful,
- -Heather Capelli
mailto:skimlizard@earthlink.net
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Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 15:20:17 -0800
From: "Jessica Schiffman"
Subject: illustration: educational publishers
Today I went to our local elementary school and spent some time poring over catalogues, looking for educational publishers that would be appropriate for me. I found six, not including big major companies that are already on my mailing list. I called these and collected names of contact persons.
But I know there are a zillion more than this. Would anyone like to trade lists? Does anyone have a better method for collecting contacts? I've been told there is an organization of edu. publishers, but that most of the small ones don't belong to it, since it's too expensive.Their names don't show up in Children's writers & Illustrator's Market either. I'd be happy to email my list to the List if anyone wants it.
Jessica
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The LMP is the best source for current information. Also, you method of investigation starting with the books is a good idea. I once went to a teacher's bookstore... and was amazed at the number of publishers I'd never heard of. Look in LMP under textbook publishing. Also, you should send to the book packagers who list under textbooks. Oftentimes publishers just farm out work to book packagers.
John
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PUBLISHERS:
http://www.authorlink.com/mktbrief.html
http://www.zuzu.com/direct.htm
http://www.zuzu.com/bookpubs.htm
http://www.publishers.org/home/index.htm
http://www.cbcbooks.org/member/memlist1.htm
http://www.acs.ucalgary.ca/~dkbrown/publish.html
http://www.scils.rutgers.edu/special/kay/publish.html
http://www.authorlink.com/aguide.html
http://www.lights.com/publisher/
http://www.writerswrite.com/books/bookpubs/
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MAGAZINES:
http://www.publishingbiz.com/
http://ajr.newslink.org/mfam.html
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