On Tuesday, July 14, 1998 12:09 PM, Lula [SMTP:woolydream@earthlink.net] wrote:

Rob also has another book - Gouache for Illustration (ISBN 0-8230-2165-3) pub 1993 by Watson-Guptill, which I assume will go out of print if not already as I have not seen this Gouache book anyplace and still see the Illustrators Bible here and there.

Date: Thu, 16 Jul 1998 01:18:04 -0400
From: Brie Combs
Subject: illustration: Update on Rob Howard's books

(Brie knows Rob Howard)
Here's the latest from Rob Howard about the future of Illustrators Bible. Watson-Guptill did NOT end up taking Illustrators Bible off their list, so it will STAY in print because it has been selling well. But Gouache for Illustration IS going off the list. Here's what else Rob has to say about his plans for the Illustrators Bible:

We are planning to create an online publishing house which will allow people to purchase one or two chapters at a time or receive an entire CD for about half the price of a printed book. They will be designed with ample illustrations and presented in Adobe Acrobat form. They'll have lots more than any book could have and the price will be right.

No more paper for this boy.

Oh yes, I intend to do an updated electronic version of Illustrators Bible. In this way I can edit and update it periodically.

Lisa wrote:

Wish I could find Rob's book, "Gouache for Illustrators"!, wasn't there,

Go to http://abebooks.com and search for rob howard as the author. Gouache for Illustration will come up for $18.71. Click on the link to order.

Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1998 18:02:39 -0700
From: Layne Jackson
Subject: Re: illustration: Books

I ordered (and received) this book ("Gouache for Illustrators") two weeks ago from http://www.abebooks.com/ and it's TERRIFIC. Someone off the list gave that info. Give it a try.


Hi all you folks who paint in watercolor or gouache...

I have a question regarding masking out areas you want to keep white or save for later painting. What all do you use? I've tried a variety of masking fluids and even airbrushing masking film and I have a real problem. Either the fluid turns to rubber (almost instantly it seems) or when I've used airbrush masking film or masking tape and cut along the outlines of the areas where I don't want color, I end up either cutting through to the paper or not cutting deep enough.

I have some rather detailed illos to do and need to put a stormy sky wash in the background. It's impossible getting it right without masking the fore and mid grounds but nothing I've used to date really cuts it for me and I was wondering what you all do for situations like this. Any neat tricks or tips? Or great masking fluids?

Thanks a bunch...


From: "Jessica Schiffman"
Subject: Re: illustration: Watercolor masking question

When masking with Windsor Newton masking fluid, dip your brush in water in between every stroke! never go back to the masking fluid without rinsing first or you will be sunk. that way you can use and re-use a halfway decent brush without immediately ruining it. If you use a crummy brush, you won't have much control.


Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1998 21:14:37 -0800
From: Layne Jackson
Subject: illustration: re: ox gall

I bought the stuff, following R. Howards' advice (at the store I told the guy to give me EXACTLY the brushes he used, EXACTLY the materials) and surprise surprise, my goauche paintings took a big giant step Up as in IMPROVEMENT...The ox gall, adding to my bottled water via eye-dropper, seems to stop the problem of beading up that would happen from occasionally getting finger grease on the work, or crumbs from lunch or who knows what else.

I say 'try it'. Reminds me of an old product I have in my watercolor kit, called 'No-Crawl'. Think a few drops of liquid soap might do the same thing..

And BTW, the ox gall liquid DOES smell a little funny.

Take care

In my days as a textile designer, I used a lot of gouache as it was the medium of choice for textile and surface design - the Winsor Newton series 7 brushes was what was used by all designers. These brushes last very well with gouache if one follows the principle of good brush use such as not painting with the point but stroking and keeping the brushes stored pointed when finished.

Recently I found using synthetic brushes were good too - the ones I use is a German brush - Da Vinci Cosmos or consider trying the Winsor Newton line of Sceptre brushes which are part sable and synthetic.


My favorite brushes for gouache are Loew-Cornell 795--they are white synthetic and are about $1.50-$3.50 depending on the size--I work small so the largest I use is 2 down to 18/0--These brushes really do take a beating

I use a lot of acrylics for my current work but I've been a gouache user for years having done textile desiging and other painting. Gouache is a water based medium similar to watercolors that can be used in a similar way as watercolors except gouache has more pigment creating an opaque look.

Gouache paints up into nice smooth flat (matte) finishes that can be blended with water at the edges to create smooth transistion of colors and shapes. Obviously these techniques depend on your personal art style and what you are painting for.

Depending on the bleed through factor of the gouache pigments you are using you can paint over other colors gouache. Many gouache painters use a designer's bleed proof white to mask out areas of color so they can paint over in case of mistakes or for effect.

One can water down gouache and get a watercolor effect too to add an extra touch to one's paintings - many people do use gouache and watercolors together for different effects.

Like all art mediums - one needs to practice and experiment to find the best effects of using gouache for their own personal styles of painting. Try it, you may like it very much.


I like gouche for creating flat areas which are not streaky or uneven in tone. Yes, it's water soluable. You have to work at the right consistency, or it will streak.

-Karen Pondfolk

Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 16:35:27 +0000
From: Lula
Subject: Re: illustration: Gouache

I've tried a few different brands of gouaches and so far my favorite ones are the Holbein brand - I find the colors to be bright and clear. I was told Holbein (Japanese company) uses very high pigment levels and refined manufacturing processes.

They also have a wonderful selection (set) of antique oriental colors, just like the colors you see on those old Kimonos! The gouaches mix very well and have a very smooth texture. Wonderful stuff!

Have you considered the Holbein Acryla gouaches? Excellent colors and perfectly smooth results - I use these a lot too and I wonder if these colors aren't more permanent than the traditional gouaches. They have lightfastness ratings on these too - I'll have to compare them later.

Winsor & Newton is the good old standard - just a different color pallette which I supplement my Holbein colors with.

I've tried the acryla gouache and really like them - they dry tougher than a regular gouache but not as plasticy as an acrylic. I bought a set of them (from Peter!) but I don't know where you can buy them in open stock.



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